The ‘Certain Kind of Woman’ is at a ‘poetry workshop’ with herself. Can’t say what/how the results will be--if at all something worthy turns around even. Let's see..
Meantime, I release a G-mail chat line that I happened to come across…It has a ‘certain kind of life' in there that interested me, when I read that with the time gaps, silences in between..…I do not know how you would take it…frivolous? Deep??... Usual? Unusual??
I leave that to you. If you feel like commenting, please do. It would be most appreciated; but, if you do not feel like, leave this and wait a little more. Freshers here, who cannot appreciate this, may please go south, you may like some stuff down beneath…:-)
A Chat-line...Hacked!!2.13PM He: Hi
She: O… hi!
He: How’s you? What you doing?
She: just fine…just reading,
and you?
2.14PM He: fine…how’ life
She: .... :-)….good
He: let me ask you, you miss me?
She: I do
He: Still remember those days?
2.15PM She: I do
He: the roads we walked together, the skies we scanned, the seas…
She: I do I do I do …..
He: with love? With regret?
2.16PM She :-)
She: O… hi!
He: How’s you? What you doing?
She: just fine…just reading,
and you?
2.14PM He: fine…how’ life
She: .... :-)….good
He: let me ask you, you miss me?
She: I do
He: Still remember those days?
2.15PM She: I do
He: the roads we walked together, the skies we scanned, the seas…
She: I do I do I do …..
He: with love? With regret?
2.16PM She :-)
He: I think…. I feel..like…
…like, like I need you back…..
…like, like I need you back…..
(3 minutes)
2.20PM She:....But, I am married now…and you were the one
...who wanted me to get married, leave you
He: I know..i know...how’s he?
She: As kind as ever
2.21PM He: Loving?
She: Of course, he is, as any husband..
He: You happy?
She: I’m most content
He: I know..i know...how’s he?
She: As kind as ever
2.21PM He: Loving?
She: Of course, he is, as any husband..
He: You happy?
She: I’m most content
(1 minutes)
2.23PM He:....But I feel… I need you…back
She: I said..... I’m married
She: I said..... I’m married
(2 minutes)
2.26PM He:....Still…
(4 minutes)
2.30PM She: ....for a day..or a night?
He: You’ve learnt to be cruel..
She: with words??
He : With me…
2.31PM She: NO, I’m not..I cannot be..
He: then why did you say so..
She: what?
He: You’ve learnt to be cruel..
She: with words??
He : With me…
2.31PM She: NO, I’m not..I cannot be..
He: then why did you say so..
She: what?
(1 minutes)
2.33PM He: about day and night
She: I was asking myself, my life
He: why?
She: because it was so cruel earlier…
…......long back
2.34PM He: So you on a revenge?
She: yes …no perhaps, I’m trying to get back
She: I was asking myself, my life
He: why?
She: because it was so cruel earlier…
…......long back
2.34PM He: So you on a revenge?
She: yes …no perhaps, I’m trying to get back
my smile, my laughter…back
(2 minutes)
2.37PM He: for me?
She: for life, my life…
She: for life, my life…
(3 minutes)
2.41PM He: So…..would you…
She: I said,...... I am married …
Sent at 2.43PM on Saturday
2.46PM She: .... :)
She: I said,...... I am married …
Sent at 2.43PM on Saturday
2.46PM She: .... :)
….….sorry, please understand me…my….
Your message could not be sent.
He appears to be offline.
Your message could not be sent.
He appears to be offline.
PS: Now, please don’t ask me ‘awkward’ questions like where I saw it, which day, which year…I have no answer. All I know is that I just came across this, somehow, somewhere…of course, the day and time is given there! :-)
& to friends who at times get back to me asking, ‘Devika – isn’t there a ‘self’ in your writings’ at the ‘Certain Kind of Woman’… ‘You seem so filled with sadness’...etcetera… etcetera …
All I can say is, in reality if it were ‘me’ and ‘him’…this chat wouldn’t have been aired at all. We are very serious people, seriously engaged in the work we do. For me it’s viewing/studying Life …even if that means peeking someone's chat lines ;-)
All I can say is, in reality if it were ‘me’ and ‘him’…this chat wouldn’t have been aired at all. We are very serious people, seriously engaged in the work we do. For me it’s viewing/studying Life …even if that means peeking someone's chat lines ;-)
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well, the internet is a strange place... wondrous in a way...
what's fact? what's fiction? are we really who we say we are? how safe is the information we share? and so on...
and you have touched on these questions in an interesting way... allowing us a sneak peek into somebody's life... but whose? did this dialogue really happen or is it a figment of imagination?
in any case, you have piqued my interest :) and the questions are rhetorical, of course...
i'm very disturbed and also aware of this.
tank u
thank you, above is a typo :)
so very strange!! do ppl actually hav such conversations in reality??
;-))
cyberworld is moving from fun oriented original to serious things of life and now it's getting dangerous. And, chat is an illusive past time most strangers deal with. People are learning to open up their minds and they don't want others to see them. But, they are on the wrong track for right reasons. They hide behind the monitors in the solitary confinement - among the four walls and go on living a serious life online, illusively.
strange, but I find it so interesting when I see something that others have written to each other. I guess it validates the existence of the human spirit - good or bad.
Phew! No wonder I disable the chat save option! ;)
root cause of infidelity..
i wonder how she will battle the temptations and provocations..!!
peeping on others stuff comes natural, i guess..!!to many..!!
:)
Chatting online can be vary dangerous. Some want to have fun. Some are really serious into it.
I am sure you have read and heard about many negative incidents due to online chatting. I do not deny there are some positive ones.
Experience is a good teacher.
Thank you for sharing.
Ran through it! A good read!:)
first time here. thought provokin read:) million questions arose.. why save chats? why talk to a guy who seems to be not so very good even after you are married to a real good person? why cheat yourself and your husband? why ruin your perfect present?...
i am glad you found this poem trouble is
interesting. i was thinking about things and people in very dangerous situations, i was disturb and have a feeling that something bad happen. that is why i need to pass the message.
Well, Devika...I think I recognize this couple from "When I Look at You"--
Perhaps life still is cruel, and sometimes it takes all the strength we have to keep smiling...but we must, because we need to care for our own hearts, don't we?
CURIOSITY and TRESPASSING is human nature!
Keshi.
Great one shared Devika!
I am 100% sure it is a piece of imagination,if not yours somebody else. :)
Hi Polona,
I am thankful to you for raising the most crucial questions underlying the post including those perhaps I failed to touch:-)
Good or bad, sneak peeking is becoming a habit in me too, howsoever I justify myself and whether this piece was really got that way or not ;-)
Anyway, thank you once again for coming and the comment. I am happy that you found it interesting…
I thought, it could be a time–pass for any serious blogger passing by - was not very sure, though.
See again!
Wishes!
Devika
Hi Kai!
Thankyou for coming and the comment Kai :-)
Yeah, I liked the poem ‘Trouble’ there and I knew the trouble you said was not just your own…
Lets hope things turn up for the good eventually..
You are a little angel to me, Kai
Take care, see again…
Yours,
devika
Hi Deep
Oh my!…you never knew?? Hope my post has not corrupted you, Deep ;-))
Thank you for coming and commenting!
See again!
Devika
Hi Cyclop!
Thank you for coming and the comment..
You seem another serious mind studying life ;-)
But seriously Cyclop, I cannot say if they are ‘on the wrong track for right reasons’ or on the ‘right track for wrong reasons’
And on hiding behind the monitors in the solitary confinement, living a ‘serious life online, illusively’--- you point a finger there at me. I take it :-)
Serious or non-serious, where in the world is life not illusive Cyclop? And don’t we all need our solitary confinements at the end of the day? Be it online or offline…
But nice to know that you too have a thought on these happenings :-)
Thank you once again
See you there
devika
Hi Andrew!
Thank you for coming and commenting..:-)
I think I agree when you say it validates the existence of the human spirit …I often find myself caught in the eagerness to see others’ commenting at blogs. May be the comment section is meant for that… but when that eagerness extends, is that good or bad? God knows!
But you surprised me when you said, you found it ‘so interesting.’ Really?
See- i still cannot believe, really. :-)
See you there…
Wishes!
Devika
Hi Rak!
Hey….that was an unlikely comment from you, dear young man!
So you find enabling chat save as the only ‘problem’ there….;-))
But I didn’t come across that from saved chat . Do you see those grey-texts – statuses -- in saved chats?? :-)
Btw, let me ask you – technically, is that the only way one can peek? I am not so sound in IT systems, but I feel there are other ways. afterall it should be in the google server, whether the save option is enabled or disabled at your end….
So, take care :-)
See you there!
Devika
Hi Vinu
Thank you for coming and that comment, which interested me much :-)
Please do not take anything personal in my response…its not meant that way, but I am taking a chance to ask…(to whom-so ever it may apply)
‘infidelity’ and you see only a ‘She’?? A ‘He’ is also there…He always has the licence to be that or what he chooses, no??
‘Infidelity thy name is human,’ perhaps Vinu, neither woman, nor man..
But I agree women are supposed to be more responsible…especially in such situations. But did the woman here show any sign of infidelity except for talking with a man, seemingly a past lover. Do we instigate her for that --I have seen this happening since my mother’s generation, and of course many were ‘dangerously’ offline! And, let me leave the man there, he has a license perhaps…
Well, I do not know how ‘She’ battles the temptations and provocations –
But as ‘I’ see, there are a number of good reasons for her to battle the temptations and provocations – her sense of virtuosity, her attachment/devotion to her kind husband, her contentment with life, her husband’s kindness and love….and above all a true realisation of the He’s self-centered ‘love’ and his indifference…
I saw life in many layers there..in that small conversation….to me it seemed a poetry, while my peeking presented certain unsure questions that are discussed by Polona, Andrew, Cyclop above
Yeah -- peeping on others stuff comes natural –I agree, and this post, in a way, was suggesting the ‘possibilities’ or ‘dangers’ (as you see it) of online communication channels… mail, chat, blogs, networks…
Thank you for that omment, where 'i' could make things a bit clear
see you there
Wishes
devika
Hi Venus!
Thank you so much for coming and the ‘cautionary’ comment :-)
I am happy that you liked me sharing it…
I am getting back to you soon :-))
Wishes!
devika
Hi Borut!
Thank you so much for coming to it, running. ‘A good read’ you said, but I hope this wasn’t disappointing for the speed you took! :-)
Btw, the gaps, the silences were meant for not-so-experienced ‘mind readers’ like me…You the master reader needs no gaps…you can run through it!:-))
I am happy (if) you found it enjoyable..See!? still, I cannot believe!
Thanks Borut, for coming and commenting...
See you there!
Devika
Hi Preeti!
Thank you for coming and that comment -- very young, yet practical way of looking at it…:-)
Before the million ‘difficult’ questions let me tell you – I didn’t come across this from someone using a save chat option. I doubt those grey-texts – statuses – are shown in saved chats..:-)
And as I asked Rakesh, let me ask you – technically, is that the only way one can peek online for a Gmail chat? I am not so sound in IT systems, but I feel there are other ways..after all it should be in the google server at least for sometime, whether the chat is saved by you or not…
And the other questions – ‘She’ may have a ‘trillion’ answers to the ‘million’ questions you choose to ask…I have seen that happening in lives. Lives of similar married women….many, many!
And Me – I can only smile at these questions, for the stage I reached in life (I am ‘happily married’ (hear it often!? :)) for 10 years now) Thats love and life, perhaps!
But I said there, if it were me-- the chat itself would not have been aired/transmitted…hope you get that, how can a chat be ‘aired’ without really chatting online..
I just saw a ‘poetry’ there…’a certain kind of life’ -- the subtle indications of which I just said in my comment to Vinu. If you are interested, please do read that Preeti …
Rest, lets leave it to He, She and Him (her husband) :-)
Thanks again for being here..
See again!
devika
Hi Firebird,
I knew You will be the first one to take that clue..:-)
And thank you that you name them only as ‘a couple’…not ‘me’ and him’. As I said, if it were we, this wouldn’t have been aired. I wouldn’t like to reveal the real me—
On life being cruel – I think God has his way of making his subjects happy in the end, after all the trails…and yes, we have to keep smiling...may be with all our strength at times. And thats easier said than done..
BUT, as you said we need to care for our own hearts and minds--
disheartenment, disillusionment, insanity, are just too painful and hard to take …
Thank you so much for the kind understanding you have…I’m still not sure if I know that much of you, my bird….I feeling like , I should go back on all your posts perhaps. Atleast so much I can…:-)
I will soon see you there
Wishes!
devika
Hi Keshi!
Thank you for coming here and the comment!
Yeah just human nature…and that nature is growing too much these days...You and I, and perhaps MIP too, know that better :-)
See you soon there..
Wishes!
devika
Hi Indrani!
Welcome back, Indrani! :-)
Hope you had a nice trip and have tons to download at the blog...
and thank you for coming…and the comment!
Yeah imagination -- perhaps I gained the art of hacking minds, along with hacking chat-lines. You trying to trap me, my 20 years long friend??
Btw, why do you blindly ‘certify’ it as 100% imagination, Indrani? I get a little inquisitive there ;-)(just kidding, yaar)
See you soon there
Wishes!
Devika
PS: Indrani, there are two posts which I would wish you read. The one just earier in this blog..and the last one at Socio-Political…Hope you would, when you have time.
Strange but interesting.
relationships sometimes plays hard reality
I am not usually one for sneaking and peaking ;-)
Oh no, I was only addding some humor there! As a matter of fact, my chat save option is on by default!
Clearly, the internet these days has become a medium for nefarious communication!
Perhaps, people should realize that chatting over the internet, like any other medium of communication is to be viewed with a fair degree of seriousness and accorded the same amount of respect as is the case with face to face communication!
And yes, as you said, disabling the chat save option does not take away the content of the communication totally since it is always stored at the back-end!!
Cheers!
Rakesh
Last time I peeked at others' writing was during some class test in school and I remember being failed in that test.
After that, I have never peeked at others' writing - online or offline :-)
Just curios, was she wearing sun-glasses by any chance?
I enjoyed it reading...I feel for these words for my Shyamalee...and I could remember many of the chats that compelled me to reread in offline mode...
Chats are the new transformation of exchange of letters...I remembered how me and a friend of mine use to write regular (almost daily) postcards to each other...we have treasured all these and when he comes to me or I go to him we read each others posts. Those are so interesting and at times nostalgic...
If you would not have revealed the facts it could have been achingly beautiful fiction or poetry....on the other hand, your facts tell how interestingly fictitious can reality be...
there are many kinds of life...and there are many kinds of poetic inquiry of life...
:))))
I am reminded of a situation described by Brenda in her poem http://rinklyrimes.blogspot.com/2008/08/blog-post_21.html
hope people understand the climax, in it..!!!!
People are often so stupid and full of pride that they jeopardise all their future lives on a moment of sheer incompreensible and astonishing absence of will and righteous thinking.. pride is what kills most in this situations..
trouble can teach you very good lessons also
Hi Starry!
Thank you for coming
Happy to know it was interesting , despite being ‘strange’ ;-)
Speaks something of the human spirit that Andrew suggested :-)
See you there soon!
wishes!
devika
Hi Rakesh!
Thank you Rakesh for coming and commenting..
True, very hard reality :-)
See you there soon!
Wishes!
devika
Hi Cherie!
I know.. you are a perfect lady!
But you said ‘usually’? ;-)
Thank you Cherie for coming and commenting..
See you there soon, i'm in a maze and was missing you for a while!
Wishes!
devika
Hey Rak!
You think me so grim, not to sense that humour in you, Rak??
Wrong… I know you are a perfect gentle man, with a ‘perfect’ sense of humour ..just seen at Salil’s the other day :-))
I was just ‘trying’ to add my dose to your comment….attempt failed!!? :-))
I just took it as a fun-handle to get you into those aspects you said of online communication systems
Wishes!
devika
Hi Salil,
Thanks for coming and that exposé there :-))
Hmmm..sun glasses -- she was holding one in hand perhaps…if at all the webcam were to open? ;-)
Btw, are you now going to agree that you understand poetry (to me, you seem to have read ‘Looking at you’) or that read the previous comments!??
I wish it were the former, so I don’t miss a funny reader for my poetry, who brings the real, lighter side of life..
Thanks Salil...
See you soon there…your Golf commentary – what do I say!!?
Wishes!
devika
Hi Amalendu!
I am obliged for the kind reading you did…I was doubting if it would make any sense to serious bloggers and poets like you…:-)
I have seen the shades of 'SHE' in Shyamalee'. And you say, you feel for her in these words, may be that’s why I can very much appreciate 'Shyamlee there…
I can also relate when you say rereading in offline mode...it is a pleasure at times to relive the past through letters, mails, chats…between friends – a nostalgic experience…
I am glad you could see poetry there. To me that --poetic life --was the main appeal in the conversation..
Wishes!
See more of your 'Shyamalee' there..
Devika
Hi Kat!
You grinning at me? Or ‘She’?? ;-))
I've read Brenda’s..she seems a master in the comedy of life and seen your comments as well..
Good that you gave the link here, though the ‘she’ seems a certain different kind..;-)
Thank you Kat!
I think I should soon be meeting Brenda at her blog…
and See you soon at your blog..with ‘that’ new one :-)
Wishes!
devika
Hi Whisperer!
Thank you for coming and the ‘whisper,’ which is still a bit unclear again..:-)
Not clear as to whom you meant –‘He’ or ‘She’? and I hope its not me the peeking one..
But yes, generally I agree 100% percent with you…
Thank you once again..
Keenly waiting for your whispers there..:-)
Wishes
Devika
Hi Kai!
True Kai…very true…
Thank you :-)
See more of you there…
Wishes!
Devika
Lol! Of course not..... you can never be grim! You are a relative of Swami Tanmaya!
Have you sent him your blogs to read? He has been keeping very busy lately I guess owing to a lot of travel!
By the way..... no updates on The Essential me & The Socio-Politically inclined Onlooker????
Its been a while!!!
Regards
Rakesh
Rak!
Yeah Lol... i LOL often for all reasons, sane and insane...
but not Rak for the attribution you made. Swami Tanmaya -- he is a great, enlightened soul..I just happened to be born in his family.. Do I give examples of relatives from the lives of great men to prove my point..there, its just lol... :-))
Yeah I do send him..and have got his encouraginging replies..He likes my poetry more i suppose..
This one i haven't. What will he think of me Rak? I have been doing something *illegal* here :-))
Updates --I have been caught in replying and reading others..that too is important to me, because I'm essentially cleary a mess in me --God's mischeif, thy name is Devika..and I am in a way helping *him* clear the mess he created :-))
Socio-Politically inclined Onlooker -- I am changing the mode next week on..and shall be posting a repost of an older one today..perhaps many have not read that...
Essential Me -- I should be doing something about this. I thought it could be something of a daily commentary like thing..But "Me" is a bit unwilling to reveal herself...will do something about her this week end..
thanks for letting me know that you look forward to reading these..
its my pleasure to have friends like you...
Warm regards,
devika
I agree with you Devika - some things should be kept out of the public eye. I have a very high regard for privacy for others as well as myself. I tend to feel the general masses are very lonely/unhappy deep down and hence reveal far too much trivial information about themselves - which on the internet can be a dangerous thing to do.
Thank you also for your very touching words on my recent post.
Could have been anyone, really. We've all had similar experiences. I just hope she doesn't give in to his ploy....
Peace.
Leaving aside all points of ethics, and looking at this as just a conversation - The 'he' seems to have got his come uppance, and the 'she' still a little flattered at his wanting her now, and when there are signs of her relenting, the chat going offline.
Throughout there is a rhythmic cadence to the whole - whether the chat is virtual or imaginary
"2.21PM He: Loving?
She: Of course, he is, as any husband.."
A revealing comment
Devika, there is the germ of a short story here. Will it develop further?
And if indeed it is a hacked chat, let us all be careful of what we say online!
hope you're doing well.
Hi Janice!
Thank you for coming and commenting…:-)
Yeah I too believe, while Internet offers the facility for sharing and reaching out to people across the planet…there are aspects we need to be careful about….
See you soon there..:-)
Wishes!
devika
Hi @get zapped!
Thank you for coming and commenting…:-)
Yeah, hope she is guided well by her conscience…
See again
Wishes!
devika
Hi Raji!
Thank you for coming and the comment :-)
I am happy you liked to read the conversation ;-)
The short story … was pondering over it – scope for a multiple series novelette! :-) but, husbands are a ‘slippery’ type to me…for that matter the genus called Man!!
&
Yes, I still do not know how I got this ;-) But lets be more careful in chats; perhaps I myself have seen many awkward chats …at the café, they sometimes leave chats open…if eyes accidentally happen to read a line…it really hurts bad!
Don’t know if they simply forget to close, or they want others to browse…with their emails traceable from chats, I wonder how they guard themselves…
see again!
Wishes!
devika
Hi Kai!
I am fine Kai, my dear Princess..
You are so nice, kind and loving..
love you so,
wishes!
devika
devika,
well, i should visited this space earlier itself..
by 'she' i didnt mean any partiality towards manhood..!! both are applicable over here..over here i was referring to the character in the post..since he was not engaged he was not doing any infidelity...only provoking that..!!
And about the license part-yeah its something unwritten over here in our society..am not advocating that, but helplessly stating the fact..!!
and yeah, as u said, women need to be more responsible in these matters since our society is moulded in such a way..and the change cant be brought overnight..!! and over here 'she' was highlighting the point 'am married'..only thing i was concerned was the flow of talks they were having..she should have cut such talks more boldly..the silence in between was so doubtful that i felt she would have been succumbed to those provocations..!!
cheers!!
:)
I don't find this unusual... It rings more true than most frivolous chit-chat.
Nice representation Devika!
P.S. Thanks for those kind words
*hugs*
Hi Vinu,
yeah, i get that...neither He nor She was showing infidelity..they were only talking ;-)
& the unwritten rules, perhaps will remain so Vinu, howmuch ever we write about it :-)
"..only thing i was concerned was the flow of talks they were having..she should have cut such talks more boldly..the silence in between was so doubtful that i felt she would have been succumbed to those provocations" ---
i think it got to do somthing with women and their first genuine love...i think so, i do not know for sure ;-))
thanks for the attempt to understand these people...and to me, you seem a very genuine mind..
wishes!
devika
Hi Macadamia!
Thank you for reading and that approving comment!
To me your comment reflects a mind which observes life from close quarters like me ;-)
thank you!
i liked that letter of yours, really! :-)
will visit again...
wishes!!
devika
you are at your best in observing the life around you. I appreciate people who observe life around them. In my opinion at times we need to be bit indifferent to peoples comments and critic. Some time there is no need to give justification. Authors have their own rights to post what they feel to post and write. It is the readers mistake they always try to make it personal with the author. good observation and nice write up as well. Your observation is true and there are many such chats in real life.
Hi KS,
glad that you liked this too...
"In my opinion at times we need to be bit indifferent to peoples comments and critic."
i agree. BUT, i do not know, i have this issue of clarifying myself. :)
Wishes,
devika
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